Date: Jul 27 12:44
User: !_--FAST-ISHAM--_
Message:
is it possible to make the deadlies non-blinds?

Date: Jul 27 13:10
User: hotnurse
Message:
I second that.

Date: Jul 27 13:23
User: dr.firenze
Message:
I vote to leave them the way they are. The only drawback is that there is no reason to look at the leaderboard, unless you want to know how many can be won.

Date: Jul 27 13:55
User: hotnurse
Message:
bingo!

Date: Jul 27 14:49
User: calicokid
Message:
This would essentially destroy the whole point of the Spelunker...


It's not a deep dark cave if you know there's a light at the end of the tunnel

Date: Jul 27 14:55
User: calicokid
Message:
just remembered that the Spelunker is not deadly...


I still think opening up the deadlies to being un-blind provides a huge psychological advantage to those willing to waste the time to see if a game has been beaten during a tournament.


The whole point of it being blind was to cut down on the drafting...

Date: Jul 27 16:47
User: !_--FAST-ISHAM--_
Message:
Oh,thats SO true. Theres a cheat-potential which kills that idea. Thanks, calicokid.

Date: Jul 27 17:32
User: hotnurse
Message:
Ok, I agree, keep thing like they are, especially after all the hoopla the last time things changed. Fyi, I, personally, don't consider drafting "cheating", and I only do it after numerous attempts to solve on my own. I just see it as a built-in advantage. I don't think it has ever really given me the edge anyway to better my ratings.

Date: Jul 27 17:32
User: dr.firenze
Message:
Drafting is not cheating.

Date: Jul 27 17:34
User: dr.firenze
Message:
I posted three seconds after you hottie obviously without reading your post.

Great minds..................

Date: Jul 27 18:59
User: !_--FAST-ISHAM--_
Message:
hottest one,firenze,guess I should reword that. Its not cheating,thats a given. I just meant taking the blind off a deadly can unfortunately,be exploited,as calicokid mentioned above. The general consensus is drafting helps players but I personally have been killed by it.

Date: Jul 27 20:43
User: calicokid
Message:
Drafting is HUGE.

I like using it in the Freakouts, there are some players who play the harder games earlier on, and don't move on to the next game until they have bested it. So when you get down to the nitty gritty at the end of the tournament it is easier to not waste your time on some games while increasing your time spent on others.

Date: Jul 27 21:12
User: Kaos
Message:
12-of-a-kind is deadly but not blind and so is the Australian Open if you play during kenwa time.

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Drafting is a double-edged (or maybe triple-edged) sword. Sometimes a good solver will knock of a tough 11-sum early and everyone will chase that game even though there may be easier games left floating around. In today's Potluck a 10x1 got lots of attention even though I'd bet most people would find that 6x3 easier.

Then there's the various psychological effects. How do you react if you see a game has one win; or three; or six?

Date: Jul 27 21:34
User: kangaroo
Message:
lol Kaos, I've seen you use kenwa as a verb, now an adjective!

In the spelunker I was convinced the second 10x1 was unwinnable and therefore nearly solved the 6x4 to get to 15. I finally had one quick look back at the 10x1 and bingo, a path I hadn't seen before. That shows the fun of not being able to draft, not that I do much anyway. And congrats on the little win, and Eunice got one back at me!

Date: Jul 27 21:36
User: roo
Message:
oops, by little I meant in quick time. Sorry!

Date: Jul 27 21:50
User: !_--FAST-ISHAM--_
Message:
I think I draft w/o really being aware of it,sometimes. Secret is dont stick on a 30% too long just cuz the other solveds are at 15%. Gotta discipline myself to move on to those 15%s if the 'easier" ones are not givin in!